Was Jesus ever mentioned in any other writing of that time period?


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Islam is an Abrahamic monotheistic religion based on the Quran , and the teachings of Muhammad . Adherents of Islam are called Muslims , who are estimated to number 2 billion worldwide and are the world's second-largest religious population after Christians . Muslims believe that Islam is the complete and universal version of a primordial faith that was revealed many times through earlier prophets and messengers , including Adam , Noah , Abraham , Moses , and Jesus . Muslims consider the Quran to be the verbatim word of God and the unaltered, final revelation. Alongside the Quran, Muslims also believe in previous revelations , such as the Tawrat (the Torah ), the Zabur ( Psalms ), and the Injil ( Gospel ). They believe that Muhammad is the main and final of God's prophets , through whom the religion was completed. The teachings and normative examples of Muhammad, called the Sunnah , documented in accounts called the hadith , provide a constitutional model for Muslims. Islam is based on the belief in the oneness and uniqueness of God ( tawhid ), and belief in an afterlife ( akhirah ) with the Last Judgment —wherein the righteous will be rewarded in paradise ( jannah ) and the unrighteous will be punished in hell ( jahannam ). The Five Pillars , considered obligatory acts of worship, are the Islamic oath and creed ( shahada ), daily prayers ( salah ), almsgiving ( zakat ), fasting ( sawm ) in the month of Ramadan , and a pilgrimage ( hajj ) to Mecca . Islamic law, sharia , touches on virtually every aspect of life, from banking and finance and welfare to men's and women's roles and the environment . The two main religious festivals are Eid al-Fitr and Eid al-Adha . The three holiest sites in Islam are Masjid al-Haram in Mecca, Prophet's Mosque in Medina , and al-Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem . The religion of Islam originated in Mecca in 610 CE. Muslims believe this is when Muhammad received his first revelation . By the time of his death, most of the Arabian Peninsula had converted to Islam . Muslim rule expanded outside Arabia under the Rashidun Caliphate and the subsequent Umayyad Caliphate ruled from the Iberian Peninsula to the Indus Valley . In the Islamic Golden Age , specifically during the reign of the Abbasid Caliphate , most of the Muslim world experienced a scientific , economic and cultural flourishing . The expansion of the Muslim world involved various states and caliphates as well as extensive trade and religious conversion as a result of Islamic missionary activities ( dawah ), as well as through conquests , imperialism , and colonialism . ( Full article... )

Flavius Josephus was a first-century Jewish historian who provided external information on some people and events found in the New Testament.[1] Josephus was a general in Galilee, which is where Jesus ministered and people who knew him still lived; he dwelled near Jesus's hometown of Nazareth for a time, and kept contact with groups such as the Sanhedrin and Ananus II who were involved in the trials of Jesus and his brother James.[2] The extant manuscripts of Josephus' book Antiquities of the Jews, written

AD 93–94, contain two references to Jesus of Nazareth and one reference to John the Baptist.[3] Josephus on Jesus - Wikipedia

You need to be specific about “that time period.” When was “that time period?”

If it was when Jesus lived, probably nothing. Why? Because writing itself was not widespread in the general population. Big merchants and the government recorded commercial transactions, but there was nothing physical or tangible equivalent to a newspaper or magazine. Consequently, given that writing was reserved to a select few, so was reading. The general population was illiterate. And even those who could read often could not write; for that, there were scribes. Curiously enough, many scribes could not read, either: they were just “copyists.” Bottom line: when Jesus walked, most news traveled by word of mouth. Therefore, one would not expect to find any contemporary writing about a traveling preacher. Put another way: IF such writings were alleged to exist, they would most certainly be fake. Their absence, therefore, lends some authenticity to such indirect sources as DO exist, and which come to daylight only by scholarship.

The next problem is your reference to “other writing.” WHAT other writing? There is no “other writing.”

So, what is there?

Curiously enough, there is authentic written material which takes shape as correspondence among the the people who directly knew, or “who knew people who knew” Jesus. The material alleged to be of their pen does not so much document the life of Jesus, but rather the issues his followers faced in terms of establishing a community of believers. Key among them are James (the alleged brother of Jesus), Peter and Paul. The fact that all of them had seriously irritated Roman authorities earned them some ink, which has survived.

There is probably no better scholar in support of Jesus as an actual person than Bart Erhman, who once was a “bellever,” but who today is an agnostic. His credentials and expertise as a Biblical scholar are above reproach; you can look it up. At a “Freedom From Religion” conference, he was confronted with questions about the authenticity of Jesus, from people who expected him to play along with the “Jesus as Myth” idea:

But to return to the question about “other writings.” Indeed; the “other writings” refer to material in scripture which is regarded as authentic by scholars. But beware, “authentic” means the material probably is “accurate” as to what was actually written. It does NOT mean that the written material is factual or true.

Depends on what you mean by “that time period.” There is no ancient writing that we can point to with confidence and say, “that document was written during the nine months or so when Jesus was marginally famous in the rural area of a backwater province that is itself barely mentioned in history.” And I’m not talking about documents that mention Jesus; I’m talking any documents, period.

It took about twenty years for anyone to write something about Jesus that has been preserved to this day. To put that into perspective, Caligula was in the public eye for roughly twenty years before anyone mentioned him, and he was on the top ten list of most famous people on planet earth while Jesus was alive. They didn’t have contemporary journalism in the ancient world. In general, it takes decades, and in some cases more than a century, for any extant writing to mention a Roman Emperor, much less a homeless, desert-wandering Galilean peasant. But despite that, more documents from the first century mention Jesus of Nazareth than not. He is mentioned by nearly every historian who followed him, including Josephus, Tacitus, and Suetonius, as well as the Roman governor Pliny the Younger, in addition to at least half a dozen Christian writings produced within living memory of the crucifixion. That’s what we know about, but ancient Christian authors casually mention the existence of other ancient references that have not survived.

So, to answer your question, yes: Jesus was mentioned by the majority of extant ancient writers within the century of his death.

By “any other writing of that time period", I assume you mean non Christian writing for around the time period of Jesus.

Tacitus briefly mentions Jesus, and that he was executed by Pontius Pilate in Jerusalem. Tacitus was writing around 60 years after Jesus death, well within the time period of his grandfather.

Josephus also makes 2 mentions of Jesus in his Antiquities of the Jews. One is reference is disputed, where some scholars think the reference was completely added by later Christian copyists and other scholars asserting the was an existing reference to Jesus that later had Christian comments added. These comments might have been originally been scribal side comments added by a scribe copying the text that a still later copyist mistakenly thought were part of the original text. That kind of thing occasionally happened when ancient text were copied.

But a Josephus has a second brief reference to Jesus that most scholars accept as genuine. Only those scholars ideologically committed to the idea that Jesus never existed reject the authenticity of the second reference in Josephus.

Keep in mind, the Christian own sources in the Book of Acts say that immediately after Jesus death, his followers numbered only a hundred or gathered together in Jerusalem for a vital meeting. Most of Jesus followers when he was alive disappeared after his death. Roman historians didn't mention Jewish religious leaders of the 1st century Palestine. Our knowledge of all the Jewish religious teachers of the time comes from Jewish sources written a couple centuries later.

It wasn't until many decades later that Jesus followers became numerous enough to attract the attention of Roman historians like Tacitus. Before that time there were too few to warrant the attention of historians. The only ancient or even medieval non Christian historian who mentions John the Baptist, the founder of Mandaean religion, was Josephus . Both ancient and historians up to modern times do not mention the Mandaeans, and based solely on the writings of historians we would never have known they existed. Because Christians eventually attracted more followers, they eventually received more attention.

Most, if not all, writing was by the elite, and they weren’t interested in another “Apocryphal Prophet” from the little village of Nazareth. Those who were living at that time were mostly illiterate. The Jewish population mostly spoke Aramaic, with some Hebrew taught at the Synagogues. There was no Synagogue in the small village of Nazareth. Most of the writings about Jesus (Yeshua) were written centuries after his death, relying on “word of mouth.” Whoever usurped the names of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John did so because their names would be more believable. Plagiarism laws did not apply to use of a name, only the story and certainly wasn’t in existence at that time. Although, use of another’s name was considered unethical eventually. Still, there were only “guesses” at the perpetrators at that time, and still today. Letters J, I , Q etc.

Others did write about Jesus also.

The Roman historian and senator Tacitus referred to Christ, his execution by Pontius Pilate and the existence of early Christians in Rome in his final work, Annals (c. 116 CE), book 15, chapter 44. The relevant passage reads: "called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus."

Scholars generally consider Tacitus's reference to the execution of Jesus by Pontius Pilate to be both authentic, and of historical value as an independent Roman source about early Christianity that is in unison with other historical records. William L. Portier has stated that the consistency in the references by Tacitus, Josephus and the letters to Emperor Trajan by Pliny the Younger reaffirm the validity of all three accounts.

Sources for the historicity of Jesus - Wikipedia
Sources about Jesus as a historical figure The Pilate Stone from Caesarea Maritima , now at the Israel Museum Christian sources such as the New Testament books in the Christian Bible , include detailed accounts about Jesus , but scholars differ on the historicity of specific episodes described in the biblical accounts of Jesus. [ 1 ] The only two events subject to "almost universal assent" are that Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist and was crucified by the order of the Roman Prefect Pontius Pilate . [ 2 ] [ 3 ] [ 4 ] [ 5 ] [ 6 ] [ 7 ] [ 8 ] [ 9 ] To establish the existence of a person without any assumptions, one source from one author (either a supporter or opponent) is needed; for Jesus there are at least 12 independent sources from five authors from supporters and 2 independent sources from two authors from non-supporters, within a century of the crucifixion. [ 10 ] Since historical sources on other named individuals from first century Galilee were written by either supporters or enemies, these sources on Jesus cannot be dismissed, and the existence of at least 14 sources from at least 7 authors means there is much more evidence available for Jesus than for any other notable person from 1st century Galilee. [ 10 ] Some scholars estimate that there are about 30 independent sources written by 25 authors who attest to Jesus overall. [ 11 ] It is notable that some independent sources did not survive, but are broadly referenced directly in the surviving sources themsleves (e.g. Luke) or inferred from modern source analysis. [ 12 ] The letters of Paul are the earliest surviving sources referencing Jesus, and Paul documents personally knowing and interacting with eyewitnesses such as Jesus' own brother James and some of Jesus' closest disciples (e.g. Peter and John) around 36 CE, within a few years of the crucifixion (30 or 33 CE). [ 13 ] Paul was a contemporary of Jesus and throughout his letters, a fairly full outline of the life of Jesus on earth can be found. [ 14 ] [ 15 ] The Gospels are commonly seen as literature that is based on oral traditions, Christian preaching, and Old Testament exegesis with the consensus being that they are a variation of Greco-Roman biography; similar to other ancient works such as Xenophon's Memoirs of Socrates . [ 16 ] Non-Christian sources that are used to study and establish the historicity of Jesus include Jewish sources such as Josephus (Jewish historian and commander in Galilee) and Roman sources such as Tacitus (Roman historian and Senator). These sources are compared to Christian sources such as the Pauline Epistles and the Synoptic Gospels . These sources are usually independent of each other (i.e., Jewish sources do not draw upon Roman sources), and similarities and differences between them are used in the authentication process. [ 17 ] [ 18 ] From just Paul, Josephus, and Tacitus alone, the existence of Jesus along with the general time and place of his activity can be confirmed. [ 19 ] Non-Christian

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