Did ancient Indian sages really know more about the world and existence than today's scientists and philosophers? Has India already invented/discovered everything modern science has invented/discovered so far? Or is it just a lie?
No, the ancient Hindu sages didn’t know all that has been discovered by modern scientists.
It is pointless to look for science in Hindu scriptures. However, there are passages that suggest that there was some scientific understanding even at so early a date.
Microscopic world
Arjuna said, ‘There are many creatures that are so minute that their existence can only be inferred. With the falling of the eyelids alone, they are destroyed.’
Mahabharata, Santi Parva, Section XV
The changing human body
Sulabha said, ‘From infancy youth is reached, and from youth, old age. As the creature advances from one stage into another, the form presented in the previous stage becomes changed. The constituent elements of the body, which serve diverse functions in the general economy, undergo change every moment in every creature. Those changes, however, are so minute that they cannot be noticed. The birth of particles, and their death, in each successive condition cannot be marked, O king, even as one cannot mark the changes in the flame of a burning lamp.’
Mahabharata, Santi Parva, Section CCCXXI
Sri Kisari Mohan Ganguli, the translator, comments, ‘The fact then of continual change of particles in the body was well known to the Hindu sages. This discovery of modern physiology is not new. Elsewhere it has been shown that Harvey’s great discovery about the circulation of the blood was not unknown to the Rishis.’
There is another passage that suggests that the region beyond the earth’s atmosphere was at least guessed. These people did not think that Earth’s atmosphere extended to infinity.
Beyond Atmosphere
Meanwhile Suka, proceeding through that region of the firmament that is above the region of the wind displayed his Yoga-prowess and identified with Brahma.
Mahabharata Santi Parva Section CCCXXXIV
Namaskar friends 🙏 !
Trust me I was waiting for something like this for quite a time . It’s too diverse at so many levels , branched, sub branched and so on .
But the primary factors are Information which is the resolution of uncertainty, or a collection of related data or knowledge about a topic.
Knowledge which is is an awareness of facts, a familiarity with individuals and situations, or a practical skill .
And then wisdom, the ability to use knowledge and experience to make good decisions and judgments.
But still it's something that varies from person to person. If one moves ahead preoccupied with the mindset that it's a lie or coincidence then nothing much can be done.
To me the answer is a strong “ YES “ . There are plenty of proofs in different aspects if one truly tries to yield a conclusion.
Firstly When we think of HINDU SAGES or SAINTS, an image of A Humble Hermit Aestic Priest that only PRAYS to THE ALMIGHTY or MEDITATES all or most of the time comes to our mind. A person depicted in neat and clean Yellow /Saffron /Orange /Red/White attire ; Beads as The HOLY RUDRAKSHA as necklaces , and wrist bracelets, Long , clean and well maintained white beard and hair . Big Eyes , Smiling , Calm and composed demeanor, wide forehead adorned with TILAK ,
Someone who can best be perceived as one who could only be A Priest in A Temple. [ ** I by no means intend to be disrespectful ; Infact I feel proud and blessed to be a part of Uncomparable, Pious and Adored HINDU Lineage ]
**But then isn't it just a perception completely based on expectations which again is encouraged or boosted by our limited intellect ? And that's the catch . We preoccupy our conscience and reasoning we such fragile logic that in a long run there is almost possibly no room for anything else.
And as a first opinion; Nothing wrong with it. But can it be accountable with certainty, or as an absolute. It's not a maybe/ could be thing…..
They were actually what we call A Doctor , A Scientist, An Engineer, An Expert Martial Artist , A Planner for war , An Architect etc , An Economist, A Political Genius, A Warfare Stratagiest , A Musical Maestro etc and so many others. That too at a level we can't even imagine to reach.
How can one know about THE NAKSHATRAS for eras while the telescope was invented roughly few centuries ago.
How can someone be acquainted with the herbal homeopathic medicine treatment as mentioned in RAMAYANA .
The structure of an atom .
How so many time tested and breath taking monuments have been created without any technical advances ?
How did the people then knew to count if Shri.Aryabhatta discovered 0 in this Era ?
How some regions of KURUKSHETRA show traces of mild radioactivity and radioactivite materials.
Which is the city designed so meticulously and perfectly submerged under the water ?
As well as of The Mohen jo Daro and Harappa ?
Well it can go on and on unceasingly . Moreover even if consider it as a lie it can't exist without some substance of truth? And if it's a coincidence then certainly so many coincidences can't take place just for nothing ?
And the bigger picture in this entire scenario is what section of the complete knowledge is known today ? Is it possible that we knew more than the Era mentioned in the question ? How much we shall know when the Era is done?
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I can say after knowing all scriptures and vedas that old Indian sages definately knew at least as much as the modern scientists know and they knew even more perhaps.
1 Ramayan is 12500 years old. They knew exactly how the planetes are placed and all important events were noted down with time as sun in this rashi, moon, in this rashi etc.
Mahabharat very clearly says that people used to go to Prabhas kshetra for a holy bath during surya grahan or solar eclipse. The tradition continues even now. When western people had no idea how the eArth looks like,our rushi scientists even calculated the eclipse dates also.
2. In Ramayan time king Dasharath went to heavens ( another planet) to help king of gods Indra . In Mahabharat time, Arjun went to heavens to learn pashupat astra. Bhishma learnt and completed all education in swarga only and then came to earth. So people that time were able to visit other planets and come back too. They had aeroplanes called viman and we still call it Viman.
3. Test tube baby technique was much more developed that time and it was called Niyog method. Even the knowledge of vibrations was so much developed that by chanting correct mantras and some other process the deities from other world used to manifest and give desired thing, mainly children.
4. Presently , we have developed nuclear bombs. But once we drop it, we cannot stop it, but bramhastra which resembles nucler weapon was even called back by Arjun, shri Ram etc.
5. When western people did not know that planets move around the sun, we knew it. Even till recent times pluto and uranus were unknown and modern people thought ther are only 7 plantes which move around the sun.. But we knew 12000 years before that there are 9 plants/ nava grahas
6. In rigveda, rudra prashna, there is list of things which is asked as gifts for us from Rudra and the list contains many metals, alloys, fine clothes with Embroidery work by golden wires and silk threads . Making a thread from gold requires lit of processing and they knew metallurgy that time. Few rishis knew how to make gold from mercury. Thus they had more advanced knowledge of chemistry than even today's scientists.
Sushrut and charak rishis have written Aurvedic texts and operations were done that time.
Do you know what distinguishes knowledge from imagination? Imagination only describes the phenomenon without giving a process of how to achieve it. Knowledge gives detailed procedures which are repeatable and do not depend on whether the person is a saint or a sinner. E.g. Arabian Nights mentions the pass-word protected cave of thieves in the story of Alibaba & 40 Thieves. This is as if the author was knowledgeable of the computer age and password protection. However, it is not considered knowledge or that society had made progress in the computer field at that time. Since no procedure was given as to how to make the password-protected cave, it is rightly considered only a fertile imagination.
Same story about knowledge in ancient India or ‘scientific facts’ in scriptures that religious screwballs keep tom tomming about. Nowhere does it mention the procedure which can be replicated by others. They did not know even the basic things like electricity and there is no mention of gadgets running on electricity. Hence it is self-deception to give credit to ancient people and scriptures for advancement in science. Aren’t you surprised that religious people can know about this advancement only after scientists find new things and not before it? If there really was science in the scriptures, why not a single patent obtained using the scriptures? Why do these people find similar inventions in the scriptures only after scientists find them by scientific method?
Yes, this is true. But there is some ancient history that is lost to us, and is only now becoming clearer given that it is becoming more widely accepted about how advanced society was over 12k years ago. Precision is the main indicator.
Physicality is only science physics
other faculty working in you and working in creation
for example hearts, vision of eyes, food growing, body consuming, intellect, knowledge and so many behind this creation is there,
the said physics of materialism is surrounded by death
Ancient Indian sages had clarity on the purpose of human birth, its goal, and the means to attain that goal. They led a life in harmony with nature and had celing on their desires. They were fascinated by their bliss of soul.
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